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title: "Improving Developer Experience With Expo"
description: "In this episode, we dive into Expo's potential to reshape the future of React Native development and enhance the developer experience. Our guests are Jon Samp, Head of Product at Expo, and Cedric van Putten, a Software Engineer at Expo. Tune in to learn how Expo can help you build React Native apps faster and more efficiently."
url: https://www.callstack.com/podcasts/improving-developer-experience-with-expo
updated: 2026-10-24T08:39:42.601Z
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# Improving Developer Experience With Expo

In this episode, we dive into Expo's potential to reshape the future of React Native development and enhance the developer experience. Our guests are Jon Samp, Head of Product at Expo, and Cedric van Putten, a Software Engineer at Expo. Tune in to learn how Expo can help you build React Native apps faster and more efficiently.

_Guests: Cedric Van Putten, Software Engineer @ Expo; Jon Samp, Head of Product @ Expo · Host: Łukasz Chludziński, Engineering Manager @ Callstack · Published 2023-10-11 · Duration 55:32 · Category: Expo_

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In this episode, we dive into Expo’s potential to reshape the future of React Native development and enhance the developer experience. Our guests are Jon Samp, Head of Product at Expo, and Cedric van Putten, a Software Engineer at Expo. Tune in to learn how Expo can help you build React Native apps faster and more efficiently.

## Expo's role in the React Native ecosystem

- The origins of Expo and its evolution into a well-known framework for making universal native apps for Android, iOS, and the web with JavaScript and React
- Insights into how Expo functions as both a product and a framework
- A practical walkthrough of starting and deploying a project with Expo
- A closer look at the features of Expo: debugging tools, Expo Router, Config Plugins, and libraries
- A deep-dive into Expo App Services (EAS) for streamlined development and delivery and the roadmap for EAS's future features
- What's next for Expo

Insights

## Learn more about Expo

Here's everything we published recently on this topic.

[View all](https://www.callstack.com/insights)

- [Expo UI with SwiftUI and Jetpack Compose in practice](https://www.callstack.com/events/expo-ui-meets-native-jetpack-compose-and-swiftui-in-practice) (Mar 26 · Live Stream): Exploring Expo UI with SwiftUI and Jetpack Compose, including setup challenges, architecture tradeoffs, and real-world developer insights.
- [From Hobby Tool to Default: Expo's Journey and the New App Awards](https://www.callstack.com/podcasts/from-hobby-tool-to-default-expos-journey-and-the-new-app-awards) (Dec 9 · Podcast): Jon Samp (Expo) discusses the framework's evolution since becoming the React Native default, the death of the "eject" mentality, and the launch of the Expo App Awards.
- [How to Gradually Migrate From React Native Community CLI to Expo](https://www.callstack.com/events/how-to-gradually-migrate-from-react-native-cli-to-expo) (Aug 5 · Webinar): Learn how to migrate your React Native Community CLI app to Expo incrementally, with minimal risk. A recording of a webinar hosted by Callstack & Expo.
- [Universal React Native Apps with DOM & React Server Components](https://www.callstack.com/podcasts/universal-react-native-apps-with-dom-react-server-components) (Jan 2 · Podcast): Tune in to discussion with Evan Bacon, Expo Router's creator, about how DOM and React Server Components make creating React Native universal apps a breeze.
- [How to Make Mobile Payment in a React Native App With Stripe and Expo in 15 Minutes](https://www.callstack.com/blog/mobile-payment-in-react-native-with-stripe-and-expo) (Jun 17 · Article): Learn how to make your first React Native payment in a mobile app with Stripe and Expo. We provide a step-by-step guide.